Pick the perfect plan for you …

Our one and only goal is to provide mental health professionals truly custom marketing solutions that work!

Accordingly, the following pricing tiers have been designed with the majority of our clients’ needs in mind.

However, needs change over time. And your marketing should be as unique as your clients, your practice, and you.

So, let us know what you want and need. If we can include it in one of the following pricing tiers, we will. If not, we’ll let you know how much it will cost. And you can always upgrade or downgrade from one tier to another at any time.

WEBSITE MANAGER

$79 /month

Have us design, develop, and manage a website that emotionally engages YOUR ideal clients and truly grows your practice … plus access all of the consultation and support you need to make sure your website grows with you.

Get Started

SEO
MANAGER

$297 /month

Your website is a must, but your marketing success doesn’t stop there … Have us create AND implement a custom Search Engine Optimization (SEO) plan that’s designed to bring more of YOUR ideal clients into your practice’s door.

Get Started

ADVERTISING MANAGER

$297 /month

If you want to get more leads and prospective coming to your website as quickly as possible, then have us create AND implement a custom advertising and paid traffic plan that’s designed to bring more of YOUR ideal clients into your practice’s door.

Get Started

SOCIAL MEDIA MANAGER

$749 /month

Successful social media is about a whole lot more than followers and likes. Have us create AND implement a custom social media marketing (SMM) plan that’s designed to bring you more of YOUR ideal clients and a positive ROI.

Get Started

MARKETING
VP

$997 /month

If you’re looking to take your practice to a whole new level, are managing a group or agency, or want to become a Therapreneur, then it’s time to hire a “Fractional CMO” who’ll coordinate and handle ALL of your marketing for you!

Get Started

WEBSITE MANAGER

$79 /month

Have us design, develop, and manage a website that emotionally engages YOUR ideal clients and truly grows your practice … plus access all of the consultation and support you need to make sure your website grows with you.

Get Started

SEO MANAGER

$297 /month

Your website is a must, but your marketing success doesn’t stop there … Have us create AND implement a custom Search Engine Optimization (SEO) plan that’s designed to bring more of YOUR ideal clients into your practice’s door.

Get Started

ADVERTISING MANAGER

$297 /month

If you want to get more leads and prospective coming to your website as quickly as possible, then have us create AND implement a custom advertising and paid traffic plan that’s designed to bring more of YOUR ideal clients into your practice’s door.

Get Started

SOCIAL MEDIA MANAGER

$749 /month

Successful social media is about a whole lot more than followers and likes. Have us create AND implement a custom social media marketing (SMM) plan that’s designed to bring you more of YOUR ideal clients and a positive ROI.

Get Started

MARKETING VP

$997 /month

If you’re looking to take your practice to a whole new level, are managing a group or agency, or want to become a Therapreneur, then it’s time to hire a “Fractional CMO” who’ll coordinate and handle ALL of your marketing for you!

Get Started

Features by plan

Find the subscription that makes the most sense for you …

WEBSITE MANAGER

$79 /month

Have us design, develop, and manage a website that emotionally engages YOUR ideal clients and truly grows your practice … plus access all of the consultation and support you need to make sure your website grows with you.

See all features ∨

Website Essentials
Professionally Designed, Custom Website Check
Unlimited Pages Check
Unlimited Changes and Updates Check
Unlimited Email Addresses (HIPAA-compliant addresses available for an additional fee) Check
Fully Customizable, Digital Practice Forms (HIPAA-compliant forms available for an additional fee) Check
Numerous Appointment Scheduling Options (including integration with SimplePractice, Square, Calendly, and more) Check
Full Ecommerce Functionality (accept payments via credit/debit cards, PayPal, Venmo, Stripe, Square, ship products, track taxes and fees, and more) Check
Google Analytics Integration Check
Domain Registration & Annual Renewal Check
Ongoing Website Hosting & Security (including weekly off-site backups, software updates, and malware protection and removal) Check
Search Engine Optimization (SEO)
Custom Keyword Research

–

Page-by-Page Site Audit, Sitemap, and SEO Coding

–

Ongoing Content Generation (Webpages, Articles, Video Editing, You Name It!)

–

Ongoing Directory and Citation Building Campaigns (for up to 2 locations)

–

Google Business Profile Setup and Management (for up to 2 locations)

–

Social Media Profile Setup & Optimization (including Facebook, LinkedIn, and Twitter)

–

Ongoing Link-Building Campaigns

–

Online Reputation Monitoring & Reporting (for up to 2 locations)

–

Monthly Search Rankings Reports (for up to 2 locations)

–

Google Ads Campaigns
Custom Keyword Research

–

Google Ads Account Setup

–

Writing and Designing Landing Page(s)

–

Copywriting for All Google Ads

–

Ongoing Management, A/B Split-Testing, and Optimization of Google Ad Campaigns

–

Weekly Google Ads and Lead Tracking Reports

–

Meta Ads Campaigns
Meta Ad Account Setup

–

Writing and Designing Landing Page(s)

–

Copywriting for All Meta Ads

–

Creating Ad Graphics for All Meta Ads

–

Ongoing Management, A/B Split-Testing, and Optimization of Ad Campaigns

–

Weekly Meta Ad and Lead Tracking Reports

–

Social Media Campaigns
Competitor and Market Research

–

Social Media Account Setup(s)

–

Custom Social Media Blueprint

–

Custom Content Calendar and Posting Schedule

–

Ongoing Content Creation for All Organic Social Campaigns

–

Content Posted Multiple Times per Week

–

Weekly Organic Social KPI and Lead Tracking Reports

–

Consultations, Training & Support
Unlimited Technical Support Check
Signed Business Associate Agreement (BAA) Check
Full Access to the Therapy Marketing Institute (including weekly trainings and support sessions valued at $248/year) Check
Creation of Client Avatar Worksheets

Up to 1

Creation and Implementation of Complete, Customized Marketing Plans

–

Individual Marketing Consultations (valued at $120/hour)

30 min. per month

SEO MANAGER

$297 /month

Your website is a must, but your marketing success doesn’t stop there … Have us create AND implement a custom Search Engine Optimization (SEO) plan that’s designed to bring more of YOUR ideal clients into your practice’s door.

See all features ∨

Website Essentials
Professionally Designed, Custom Website Check
Unlimited Pages Check
Unlimited Changes and Updates Check
Unlimited Email Addresses (HIPAA-compliant addresses available for an additional fee) Check
Fully Customizable, Digital Practice Forms (HIPAA-compliant forms available for an additional fee) Check
Numerous Appointment Scheduling Options (including integration with SimplePractice, Square, Calendly, and more) Check
Full Ecommerce Functionality (accept payments via credit/debit cards, PayPal, Venmo, Stripe, Square, ship products, track taxes and fees, and more) Check
Google Analytics Integration Check
Domain Registration & Annual Renewal Check
Ongoing Website Hosting & Security (including weekly off-site backups, software updates, and malware protection and removal) Check
Search Engine Optimization (SEO)
Custom Keyword Research Check
Page-by-Page Site Audit, Sitemap, and SEO Coding Check
Ongoing Content Generation (Webpages, Articles, Video Editing, You Name It!) Check
Ongoing Directory and Citation Building Campaigns (for up to 2 locations) Check
Google Business Profile Setup and Management (for up to 2 locations) Check
Social Media Profile Setup & Optimization (including Facebook, LinkedIn, and Twitter) Check
Ongoing Link-Building Campaigns Check
Online Reputation Monitoring & Reporting (for up to 2 locations) Check
Monthly Search Rankings Reports (for up to 2 locations) Check
Google Ads Campaigns
Custom Keyword Research Check
Google Ads Account Setup

–

Writing and Designing Landing Page(s)

–

Copywriting for All Google Ads

–

Ongoing Management, A/B Split-Testing, and Optimization of Google Ad Campaigns

–

Weekly Google Ads and Lead Tracking Reports

–

Meta Ads Campaigns
Meta Ad Account Setup

–

Writing and Designing Landing Page(s)

–

Copywriting for All Meta Ads

–

Creating Ad Graphics for All Meta Ads

–

Ongoing Management, A/B Split-Testing, and Optimization of Ad Campaigns

–

Weekly Meta Ad and Lead Tracking Reports

–

Social Media Campaigns
Competitor and Market Research

–

Social Media Account Setup(s) Check
Custom Social Media Blueprint

–

Custom Content Calendar and Posting Schedule

–

Ongoing Content Creation for All Organic Social Campaigns

–

Content Posted Multiple Times per Week

–

Weekly Organic Social KPI and Lead Tracking Reports

–

Consultations, Training & Support
Unlimited Technical Support Check
Signed Business Associate Agreement (BAA) Check
Full Access to the Therapy Marketing Institute (including weekly trainings and support sessions valued at $248/year) Check
Creation of Client Avatar Worksheets

Up to 2

Creation and Implementation of Complete, Customized Marketing Plans

Up to 1

Individual Marketing Consultations (valued at $120/hour)

60 min. per month

ADVERTISING MANAGER

$297 /month

If you want to get more leads and prospective coming to your website as quickly as possible, then have us create AND implement a custom advertising and paid traffic plan that’s designed to bring more of YOUR ideal clients into your practice’s door.

See all features ∨

Website Essentials
Professionally Designed, Custom Website Check
Unlimited Pages Check
Unlimited Changes and Updates Check
Unlimited Email Addresses (HIPAA-compliant addresses available for an additional fee) Check
Fully Customizable, Digital Practice Forms (HIPAA-compliant forms available for an additional fee) Check
Numerous Appointment Scheduling Options (including integration with SimplePractice, Square, Calendly, and more) Check
Full Ecommerce Functionality (accept payments via credit/debit cards, PayPal, Venmo, Stripe, Square, ship products, track taxes and fees, and more) Check
Google Analytics Integration Check
Domain Registration & Annual Renewal Check
Ongoing Website Hosting & Security (including weekly off-site backups, software updates, and malware protection and removal) Check
Search Engine Optimization (SEO)
Custom Keyword Research Check
Page-by-Page Site Audit, Sitemap, and SEO Coding

–

Ongoing Content Generation (Webpages, Articles, Video Editing, You Name It!)

–

Ongoing Directory and Citation Building Campaigns (for up to 2 locations)

–

Google Business Profile Setup and Management (for up to 2 locations)

–

Social Media Profile Setup & Optimization (including Facebook, LinkedIn, and Twitter) Check
Ongoing Link-Building Campaigns

–

Online Reputation Monitoring & Reporting (for up to 2 locations)

–

Monthly Search Rankings Reports (for up to 2 locations)

–

Google Ads Campaigns
Custom Keyword Research Check
Google Ads Account Setup Check
Writing and Designing Landing Page(s) Check
Copywriting for All Google Ads Check
Ongoing Management, A/B Split-Testing, and Optimization of Google Ad Campaigns Check
Weekly Google Ads and Lead Tracking Reports Check
Meta Ads Campaigns
Meta Ad Account Setup Check
Writing and Designing Landing Page(s) Check
Copywriting for All Meta Ads Check
Creating Ad Graphics for All Meta Ads Check
Ongoing Management, A/B Split-Testing, and Optimization of Ad Campaigns Check
Weekly Meta Ad and Lead Tracking Reports Check
Social Media Campaigns
Competitor and Market Research

–

Social Media Account Setup(s) Check
Custom Social Media Blueprint

–

Custom Content Calendar and Posting Schedule

–

Ongoing Content Creation for All Organic Social Campaigns

–

Content Posted Multiple Times per Week

–

Weekly Organic Social KPI and Lead Tracking Reports

–

Consultations, Training & Support
Unlimited Technical Support Check
Signed Business Associate Agreement (BAA) Check
Full Access to the Therapy Marketing Institute (including weekly trainings and support sessions valued at $248/year) Check
Creation of Client Avatar Worksheets

Up to 2

Creation and Implementation of Complete, Customized Marketing Plans

Up to 1

Individual Marketing Consultations (valued at $120/hour)

60 min. per month

SOCIAL MEDIA MANAGER

$749 /month

Successful social media is about a whole lot more than followers and likes. Have us create AND implement a custom social media marketing (SMM) plan that’s designed to bring you more of YOUR ideal clients and a positive ROI.

See all features ∨

Website Essentials
Professionally Designed, Custom Website Check
Unlimited Pages Check
Unlimited Changes and Updates Check
Unlimited Email Addresses (HIPAA-compliant addresses available for an additional fee) Check
Fully Customizable, Digital Practice Forms (HIPAA-compliant forms available for an additional fee) Check
Numerous Appointment Scheduling Options (including integration with SimplePractice, Square, Calendly, and more) Check
Full Ecommerce Functionality (accept payments via credit/debit cards, PayPal, Venmo, Stripe, Square, ship products, track taxes and fees, and more) Check
Google Analytics Integration Check
Domain Registration & Annual Renewal Check
Ongoing Website Hosting & Security (including weekly off-site backups, software updates, and malware protection and removal) Check
Search Engine Optimization (SEO)
Custom Keyword Research

–

Page-by-Page Site Audit, Sitemap, and SEO Coding

–

Ongoing Content Generation (Webpages, Articles, Video Editing, You Name It!)

–

Ongoing Directory and Citation Building Campaigns (for up to 2 locations)

–

Google Business Profile Setup and Management (for up to 2 locations)

–

Social Media Profile Setup & Optimization (including Facebook, LinkedIn, and Twitter) Check
Ongoing Link-Building Campaigns

–

Online Reputation Monitoring & Reporting (for up to 2 locations)

–

Monthly Search Rankings Reports (for up to 2 locations)

–

Google Ads Campaigns
Custom Keyword Research

–

Google Ads Account Setup

–

Writing and Designing Landing Page(s)

–

Copywriting for All Google Ads

–

Ongoing Management, A/B Split-Testing, and Optimization of Google Ad Campaigns

–

Weekly Google Ads and Lead Tracking Reports

–

Meta Ads Campaigns
Meta Ad Account Setup Check
Writing and Designing Landing Page(s) Check
Copywriting for All Meta Ads Check
Creating Ad Graphics for All Meta Ads Check
Ongoing Management, A/B Split-Testing, and Optimization of Ad Campaigns Check
Weekly Meta Ad and Lead Tracking Reports Check
Social Media Campaigns
Competitor and Market Research Check
Social Media Account Setup(s) Check
Custom Social Media Blueprint Check
Custom Content Calendar and Posting Schedule Check
Ongoing Content Creation for All Organic Social Campaigns Check
Content Posted Multiple Times per Week Check
Weekly Organic Social KPI and Lead Tracking Reports Check
Consultations, Training & Support
Unlimited Technical Support Check
Signed Business Associate Agreement (BAA) Check
Full Access to the Therapy Marketing Institute (including weekly trainings and support sessions valued at $248/year) Check
Creation of Client Avatar Worksheets

Up to 2

Creation and Implementation of Complete, Customized Marketing Plans

Up to 2

Individual Marketing Consultations (valued at $120/hour)

60 min. per month

MARKETING VP

$997 /month

If you’re looking to take your practice to a whole new level, are managing a group or agency, or want to become a Therapreneur, then it’s time to hire a “Fractional CMO” who’ll coordinate and handle ALL of your marketing for you!

See all features ∨

Website Essentials
Professionally Designed, Custom Website Check
Unlimited Pages Check
Unlimited Changes and Updates Check
Unlimited Email Addresses (HIPAA-compliant addresses available for an additional fee) Check
Fully Customizable, Digital Practice Forms (HIPAA-compliant forms available for an additional fee) Check
Numerous Appointment Scheduling Options (including integration with SimplePractice, Square, Calendly, and more) Check
Full Ecommerce Functionality (accept payments via credit/debit cards, PayPal, Venmo, Stripe, Square, ship products, track taxes and fees, and more) Check
Google Analytics Integration Check
Domain Registration & Annual Renewal Check
Ongoing Website Hosting & Security (including weekly off-site backups, software updates, and malware protection and removal) Check
Search Engine Optimization (SEO)
Custom Keyword Research Check
Page-by-Page Site Audit, Sitemap, and SEO Coding Check
Ongoing Content Generation (Webpages, Articles, Video Editing, You Name It!) Check
Ongoing Directory and Citation Building Campaigns (for up to 2 locations) Check
Google Business Profile Setup and Management (for up to 2 locations) Check
Social Media Profile Setup & Optimization (including Facebook, LinkedIn, and Twitter) Check
Ongoing Link-Building Campaigns Check
Online Reputation Monitoring & Reporting (for up to 2 locations) Check
Monthly Search Rankings Reports (for up to 2 locations) Check
Google Ads Campaigns
Custom Keyword Research Check
Google Ads Account Setup Check
Writing and Designing Landing Page(s) Check
Copywriting for All Google Ads Check
Ongoing Management, A/B Split-Testing, and Optimization of Google Ad Campaigns Check
Weekly Google Ads and Lead Tracking Reports Check
Meta Ads Campaigns
Facebook Ad Account Setup Check
Writing and Designing Landing Page(s) Check
Copywriting for All Facebook Ads Check
Creating Ad Graphics for All Facebook Ads Check
Ongoing Management, A/B Split-Testing, and Optimization of Ad Campaigns Check
Weekly Meta Ad and Lead Tracking Reports Check
Social Media Campaigns
Competitor and Market Research Check
Social Media Account Setup(s) Check
Custom Social Media Blueprint Check
Custom Content Calendar and Posting Schedule Check
Ongoing Content Creation for All Organic Social Campaigns Check
Content Posted Multiple Times per Week Check
Weekly Organic Social KPI and Lead Tracking Reports Check
Consultations, Training & Support
Unlimited Technical Support Check
Signed Business Associate Agreement (BAA) Check
Full Access to the Therapy Marketing Institute (including weekly trainings and support sessions valued at $248/year) Check
Creation of Client Avatar Worksheets

Unlimited

Creation and Implementation of Complete, Customized Marketing Plans

Unlimited

Individual Marketing Consultations (valued at $120/hour)

120 min. per month

Website Essentials

 
WEBSITE
MANAGER

$79 /
month

SEO
MANAGER

$297 /month

ADVERTISING
MANAGER

$297 /month

SOCIAL MEDIA
MANAGER

$749 /month

MARKETING
VP

$997 /month

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Unlimited Pages Check Check Check Check Check
Unlimited Changes and Updates Check Check Check Check Check
Unlimited Email Addresses (HIPAA-compliant addresses available for an additional fee) Check Check Check Check Check
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Full Ecommerce Functionality (accept payments via credit/debit cards, PayPal, Venmo, Stripe, Square, ship products, track taxes and fees, and more) Check Check Check Check Check
Google Analytics Integration Check Check Check Check Check
Domain Registration & Annual Renewal Check Check Check Check Check
Ongoing Website Hosting & Security (including weekly off-site backups, software updates, and malware protection and removal) Check Check Check Check Check
 

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Search Engine Optimization (SEO)

 
WEBSITE
MANAGER

$79 /
month

SEO
MANAGER

$297 /month

ADVERTISING
MANAGER

$297 /month

SOCIAL MEDIA
MANAGER

$749 /month

MARKETING
VP

$997 /month

Custom Keyword Research

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Ongoing Content Generation (Webpages, Articles, Video Editing, You Name It!)

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Ongoing Directory and Citation Building Campaigns (for up to 2 locations)

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Google Business Profile Setup and Management (for up to 2 locations)

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Social Media Profile Setup & Optimization (including Facebook, LinkedIn, and Twitter)

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Ongoing Link-Building Campaigns

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Online Reputation Monitoring & Reporting (for up to 2 locations)

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Monthly Search Rankings Reports (for up to 2 locations)

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Google Ads Campaigns

 
WEBSITE
MANAGER

$79 /
month

SEO
MANAGER

$297 /month

ADVERTISING
MANAGER

$297 /month

SOCIAL MEDIA
MANAGER

$749 /month

MARKETING
VP

$997 /month

Custom Keyword Research

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Writing and Designing Landing Page(s)

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Copywriting for All Google Ads

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Weekly Google Ads and Lead Tracking Reports

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Get Started

Get Started

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Get Started

Meta Ads Campaigns

 
WEBSITE
MANAGER

$79 /
month

SEO
MANAGER

$297 /month

ADVERTISING
MANAGER

$297 /month

SOCIAL MEDIA
MANAGER

$749 /month

MARKETING
VP

$997 /month

Meta Ad Account Setup

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Writing and Designing Landing Page(s)

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Copywriting for All Meta Ads

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Creating Ad Graphics for All Meta Ads

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Ongoing Management, A/B Split-Testing, and Optimization of Ad Campaigns

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Weekly Meta Ad and Lead Tracking Reports

–

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Get Started

Get Started

Get Started

Get Started

Social Media Campaigns

 
WEBSITE
MANAGER

$79 /
month

SEO
MANAGER

$297 /month

ADVERTISING
MANAGER

$297 /month

SOCIAL MEDIA
MANAGER

$749 /month

MARKETING
VP

$997 /month

Competitor and Market Research

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Social Media Account Setup(s)

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Custom Social Media Blueprint

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Custom Content Calendar and Posting Schedule

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Ongoing Content Creation for All Organic Social Campaigns

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Content Posted Multiple Times per Week

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Weekly Organic Social KPI and Lead Tracking Reports

–

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Get Started

Get Started

Get Started

Get Started

Get Started

Consultations, Training & Support

 
WEBSITE
MANAGER

$79 /
month

SEO
MANAGER

$297 /month

ADVERTISING
MANAGER

$297 /month

SOCIAL MEDIA
MANAGER

$749 /month

MARKETING
VP

$997 /month

Unlimited Technical Support Check Check Check Check Check
Signed Business Associate Agreement (BAA) Check Check Check Check Check
Full Access to the Therapy Marketing Institute (including weekly trainings and support sessions valued at $248/year) Check Check Check Check Check
Creation of Client Avatar Worksheets

Up to 1

Up to 2

Up to 2

Up to 2

Unlimited

Creation and Implementation of Complete, Customized Marketing Plans

–

Up to 1

Up to 1

Up to 2

Unlimited

Individual Marketing Consultations (valued at $120/hour)

30 min. per month

60 min. per month

60 min. per month

60 min. per month

120 min. per month

 

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Frequently Asked Questions

What Is Not Included in the Three Plans?

While we try to include the licensing costs for any stock photography, images, and videos, given the costs to license images and videos can vary widely, we may not be able to do so. However, we’ll always let you know beforehand if there will be any additional fees associated with using a particular image or video. And while we do write copy for standalone marketing emails and email sequences, any email copywriting you’d like us to do will be billed separately. Other than these two items, pretty much everything else you can think of is included in the plans above. But again, if any additional costs ever apply, we’ll tell you beforehand.

How Much Extra Are HIPAA-Compliant Emails and Forms?

Through our partnership with Hushmail, we offer up to two HIPAA-compliant email addresses for an additional $14.99/month. All HIPAA-compliant emails include secure contact and appointment request forms which we will add to your website at no additional cost. And if you’d rather create a Google Workspaces account for HIPAA-compliant email, we’ll be happy to integrate it with your website at no additional cost.

If you’re interested in having digital intake forms that clients can fill out and sign online, we offer up to five HIPAA-compliant email addresses and up to 5 HIPAA-compliant forms for $29.99/month. If you need more email addresses of forms, please contact us for a quote.

Do You Offer a Guarantee or Refunds?

Because of the labor-intensive nature of the customized solutions we provide, we don’t offer any refunds. And because marketing is as much an art as it is a science, algorithms are always changing, and your active participation is required for your success, we can’t guarantee any specific results. However, all of our plans are offered on a month-to-month basis, and you may upgrade, downgrade, or cancel your plan at any time, for any reason.